Tuesday, October 21, 2014

Irwins/Irvines Glencoe County Antrim Northern Ireland



The English held most of the population of Ireland under severe penal restrictions as a result of several Test Acts enacted in the late 1600's by James I and Charles II of England. These edicts specified that all marriages and funerals were required to use the Church of England rituals and ceremonies. All non-Episcopalians were barred from serving in the army or navy, as well as from all other forms of public employment.

Catholics were restricted even further, particularly in the ownership of land. While these restrictions were aimed primarily at religious activities, there were others of an economic nature which left Ireland virtually on its knees.
 Most Scottish expatriates in Ireland at this time were Presbyterian, while the native Irish were predominantly Catholic. Many eventually took the Oath of Supremacy, probably with their fingers crossed behind their backs, in order to survive economically and provide for their families.

Nevertheless, people began to look elsewhere for freedom and opportunity. David Irvine was born in 1646 at Drum Castle near Aberdeen, Scotland. He was a son of Robert Irvine (1620-1645) of Drum and Elizabeth Wylie. He, like several other young Irvine men, left Scotland just ahead of the Covenenters. He married Sophia Gault about 1663 in Glencoe, County Ulster, Northern Ireland, and eventually, with the backing of the Irvine family in Scotland, operated a linen mill near Larne, County Antrim. They had five children.

One of those five was James Irwin who married Margaret Wylie and is buried in the historic Raloo Churchyard Antrim. Their son Archibald Irwin was born in Glencoe County Antrim and died in Mercersburg PA January 23, 1798. Archibald's son, also named Archibald, married Jean McDowell and their son William Irwin is father to John Irwin and grandfather to Joseph Combs Irwin.

This is the story of Robert Irvine, father of David, grandfather of our James Irwin and great-grandfather of our Archibald Irwin.

Robert Irvine

  • Birth: 1620 - Drum Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
  • Death: Feb 4 1646 - Tolbooth Prison, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
  • Parents: Alexander Irvine, Magdalene Scrimgrour
  • Wife: Elizabeth Wylie
  • Child: David Irvine
  • Immigration: 1644, Fled from Scotland to Glencoe, Ulster, Ireland, where the Irwins had property, because of the religious troubles in Scotland.
The Lairds of Drum, had always been Royalists, but in the 1600s, with the strength of the "Covenanters" and the weakness of the King and his few supporters, the Laird and his estate suffered badly. Alexander, the Xth Laird, was imprisoned and a decree was issued by the Covenanters to demolish the Tower and the Castle of Drum, but the decree was never carried out. 
It was under these conditions that Robert Irvine, one of the younger sons of the Xth Laird fled to County Antrim, Ireland, to escape the persecution. There he settled at Glenoe, near Larne, and being perhaps twenty-five years of age, married Elizabeth Wylie, starting a cadet branch of Drum Castle that took roots only through two generations, the third in a large part, coming to America. 
In 1644, the King commissioned the raising of an army in support of his struggle with the Parliament in England. Robert Irvine, who had fled to Ireland earlier, returned to Scotland in answer to the King's call for assistance. On April 14, 1644, "The young Laird of Drum and his brother Robert rode through Abirdene having two cullouris, one having the King's Armes, the other having the Irving Armes." 
To get recruits for service in England. However, the Covenanters, being already in force, forestalled the efforts of the Royalists and pursued the Young Laird and his brother, making it necessary for them to flee the country.

"On 10 June, 1644, Alexander Irving, younger, of Drum, Marie Gordon, his lady, Robert Irving, his brother, Mr. Alexander Irving, sone to John Irving of Auchtamford, etc., shipped abour Fraserburghe, and to sea they go. But his Lady was so troubled with sea-sickness that they landed in Caithness, where Francis Sincklair, son to the Earl of Caithness, seized them and sent word to the Estates, now sitting at Edinburgh: quharait the Estates was marvelous blythe for getting such a riche pray, who gave order for their transportation. They were wardt in the Tolbuith, Edinburgh."
Montrose, now supporting the Royalists, arrived in triumph after his victory at Kilsyth and released all the prisoners from the Tolbooth (Scot: prison). The Irvines now joined the camp of Montrose, but scarcely had they done so when Montrose was completely defeated at Philiphaugh, on the 13th of September.

The Irvines were again consigned to their dungeons. 
"Ye hard befoir the taking and warding of the yound Drum and his brother, Robert Irving. This brave young gentleman (Robert) departit this lyf within the Tolbuith of Edinburgh, upon Tuysday, 4 Februar, 1646, and that same nicht, being excommunicate, was buriet, betwixt 11 and 12 a clok, with candle licht and lanternis, the young Laird lying sore seik alse the sane chamer, who upon gryt mogan, was transportit in ane wandbed, upon the morne, fra the Tolbuith to the Castell, quhair he lay sore greivit at the death of his weil belovit brother, bourne dune by unhappie destiny".


 The prison is now gone but this pub would be a good place for you to go and raise a glass in honor of our brave ancestor, Robert Irvine and his kin.

27 comments:

  1. Please Leave A Comment If You Read This Post And Then Raised A Glass To Celebrate The Life Of Ancestor Robert Irvine.

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  2. Good morning! I'm a direct descendant of Robert Irvine and will be visiting Scotland soon. I'll be sure to visit this tavern and raise a glass!

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  3. I have a James Irwin m. Jean McDowell at Mercersburg, PA, and buried at nearby Church Hill--who were parents of an Archibald Irwin. And there is an "Irwin House" in the middle of Mercersburg that belonged to Archibald. Something does not quite add up here....

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    1. I am the daughter of a James m Irwin

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    2. I am the son of James Alexander Erwin who traces back to Arthur Erwin (1738-1821).

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  4. Joe, I also have James Irwin and Jean McDowell in my tree. James' (1705-1778) father was Robert Irvine (1670-1729). Robert's Grandfather was the Robert Irvine mentioned in this article who marries Elizabeth Wylie.

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    1. Unknown, do you have other Irwin/Erwin or McDowell relatives of James and Jean in the Mercersburg PA area? Or in VA and/or NC?
      Is there an Arthur Erwin born in that area who left and went south? Feel free to use my gmail ("agingapes").

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    2. I continue to wonder about the exact relationships among the Irvine, Irwin, Erwin folks who came to PA, VA, and NC in the 1700s. Information stated as fact does not all agree.

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    3. You hit the nail on the head, Joe. These connections are what beg for examination and re-coupling. It could be done but paid genealogists would be required. Descendants who have done their own research (beyond Google) could help sort out the fact. Interesting family.

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    4. I met yesterday with my cousin Marvin Edward Erwin. Our common ancestor was James Albert Erwin. He has traced much information in this line, and I think he has been quite careful. Even so, not all the info out there has been reconciled in ways that I find sufficiently credible.

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    5. Joe the Irwin ,s family hit the east Coast America,7Btothers spread out over South Carolina too Pa Ohio and other eastern coast Tennessee included,There a book were our family was original settlers of Bluffton ohio and a tree with R.Irwin 1743carved there as well he was one of the 7 brothers of Robert Irwin

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  5. Raising a glass to my 10th Great-Grandfather! Thank you for the information!

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  6. I am Robert Alexander of Minnesota, USA; and find this article very interesting. I will have to do more research, but I do believe my IRWIN lineage can trace back to the related time period. Thank you so much.

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    1. It can be 7 Brothers sons of Robert James Irwin and tie to the entire history..

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  7. First there is a typo spelling error. The County Antrim, NI, location is G L E N O E not Glencoe. Glencoe is a notable place in Scotland.

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    1. Yes, Joe. It is a notable place in Scotland and it really is spelled Glencoe. Located I n County Antrim, Northern Ireland. Not that far from Drum Castle area. An Irvine political/economic forced migration.

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    2. Wait. Glen Coe, or Glencoe is in Scotland, as is Drum Castle. Glenoe (or Gleno), is in County Atrim, Northern Ireland.

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    3. County Antrim sorry for typo

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  8. Glencoe Scotland is near the west coast and Aberdeen is on the east coast. >150 miles apart.

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  9. Check current maps for Gleno, Raloo, and Larne

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  10. Has anyone reading this been to Gleno village, Gleno Falls, Raloo Parish cemeteries, or Larne (all in County Antrim, Northern Ireland (Ulster)? How about the city of Irvine, Scotland, or Glencoe, or Drum Castle, or Bonshaw?

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    1. I stopped by the museum of linen just south of Belfast to learn more about the linen businesses that were in this área. Didn’t make it all the way to Gleno Falls. In Glencoe Scotland now. Heading to Drum castle next week.

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  11. I am in Scotland now and just left Edinburgh, where I visited the Tollbooth Tavern, thinking it was the site where Robert Irvine must have died. I am a direct descendant through myself paternal grandmother. But after further research, I think it is not likely the site. There was more than one Tollbooth Prison and the one at the tavern, which is almost a mile from the castle, was for minor offenses. Serious offenses and all the executions appear to have been handled at the Old Tollbooth prison, right next to St Giles cathedral. That building was torn down in 1816 and is featured in Sir Walter Scott’s novel The Midlothians. Here is more info about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Tolbooth,_Edinburgh

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  12. I am a kiltmaker on the Royal Mile not far from the Tolbooth Tavern and I am a direct descendant of Robert Irvine of Glenoe through my 5th great grandmother Margaret Irwin of Pennsylvania daughter of Robert Irwin born Ireland 1690 died Pennsylvania.

    Bill
    ccckilt@aol.com

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    1. I'm direct descendent of Robert Irvine who,s 7 sons came to America and spread through the eastern coast id love to speak to you one day

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  13. I think there is no evidence that the Robert Irvine who died in Edinburgh in 1645/6 and was the son of the tenth Laird Alexander was the same Robert Irvine who married Elizabeth Wylie. The line from the American branches of Irvine family is therefore not established at all back to the Lairds of Drum. No genealogy in Scotland supports this and they say that the Robert who died in the Tolbooth who was the second son of the Laird was unmarried. To me the origin of Robert Irvine and Elizabeth Wylie is unclear. Does anyone have clear evidence of how they link to Drum or Bonshaw?

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    1. Hi Dom,

      A lot of interesting info in the following books:

      Elisabeth Maxwell.. Paull-Irwin : a family sketch. Baltimore, Md.: T.A. Munder, 1936.

      Emma Siggins,. Genealogy of the descendants of John Walker of Wigton, Scotland, with records of a few allied families : also war records and some fragmentary notes pertaining to the history of Virginia, 1600-1902. Kansas City, Mo.?: Tiernan-Dart Printing Co., 1902.

      Stephen, Sir Leslie, ed. Dictionary of National Biography, 1921–1922. Volumes 1–22. London, England: Oxford University Press, 1921–1922. Dictionary of National Biography, 1921–1922, Oxford University Press, London, England.

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